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Has the Nobel Prize linked Climate change to Terror forever?

October 17th 2007 01:08
: Climate Change and Terror: Does the Nobel prize seal the deal?
By now only those that live on the Moon or on a slow boat to China haven't heard that Al gore and the UN have won the Nobel Peace prize for their Climate Change Campaign efforts.

It is strange because until a few weeks ago as far as I am aware there was only rumblings that Climate Change was linked to Terror, now it seems to be a fact because the Nobel Peace Prize tells us so. The article below has some good facts about why the prize was awarded and what the links are, it still seems a very grey area to me, I have read quite a few conspiracy theory Blogs out there that Climate change is the next Y2K etc it scares me that i don't solely disagree with these theories HOWEVER i don't think it really matters, no-one can deny that anything we do to help the environment is better than what we have done in the past; so i welcome all this media attention, no matter how many grains of salt I decide to take it with in the coming months.

We are going to be inundated with false facts in this election campaign, i am hoping that the Liberals bite the bullet and remove Climate Change as an election issue by coming out and saying they will sign Kyoto no matter what. That way we get the result without having the issue turned into a show pony....here's hoping.

i am going to try my hardest to stay out of Politics.........really really hard.

See below for story and link.

Cheers

Louie

Award Underlines Danger of Climate Change

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By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL
Published: October 13, 2007

The Nobel Peace Prize committee made a powerful statement today that the consequences of increasing carbon emissions could be as dangerous as the ravages of war.

The award to Al Gore and the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reflects a growing conviction on the part of scientists, politicians and economists that emissions and the global warming they produce will lead not only to more pollution but could also create economic mayhem, social upheaval and conflicts between nations or groups trying to survive in an increasingly hostile natural environment.

“This prize is an indication of the degree to which we’ve realized in the past few years that what happens in the environment is not just about natural resources but has so many different dimensions,” said Achim Steiner, executive director of the United Nations Environment Program, which helped found the intergovernmental panel.

“It recognizes that changes in the environment are likely to manifest themselves in tensions and conflicts.”

Indeed, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, which has for years maintained a “Doomsday Clock” to monitor the risk of global disaster from nuclear weapons, this year increased its warning level for the first time not because of weaponry but because of the threat posed by global warming.

Some scholars believe that climate-related conflict is already upon us. “I believe there are many places that are in, or on the edge of, conflict because of climate change already, and this prize is a warning that on our current trajectory of climate change the risk will get a lot worse — these will be the conflicts of the 21st century,” said Jeffrey D. Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University in New York.

He said that climate change had already helped ignite conflicts and wars in a swath of the world that extends from the Sudan in Africa, through the Middle East and to Afghanistan. “All of these are in dry lands that have had significant environmental stress, which is probably related to climate change,” he said.

A recent United Nations report concluded that land degradation and desertification in the Darfur region of Sudan helped set the stage for the devastating tribal and ethnic conflicts of the last few years as poor people increasingly competed for depleted resources. “But for the environmental stress, I doubt this would have exploded,” Mr. Sachs said.

Large-scale migrations from Africa to Europe are already on the increase at least in part because climate change has made traditional livelihoods, from farming to fishing less viable, experts say.

If global warming continues on its current course, the Himalayan glaciers will melt, according to the most recent I.P.C.C. report, ultimately reducing the water supply of hundreds of millions of people in India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. “It does not take a lot of imagination to see that this will have drastic economic and social effects and lead to conflicts,” Mr. Steiner said.

But the potential for conflict spawned by climate change is not limited to the poor countries of the world. Already, as polar ice melts, countries are scrambling to claim newly accessible waterways and resources.

The United Nations panel and Mr. Gore have in their separate ways insisted that the world to find a global strategy for limiting climate change and adapting to climate shifts that are already inevitable. Many others have joined forcefully in the mantra that peace and prosperity depend on the success in this quest — including former President Bill Clinton, under whom Mr. Gore was vice president; Sir Nicholas Stern, who was the chief economist of the World Bank; and business leaders like Richard Branson.

In a report prepared for the British government and released last December, Sir Nicholas suggested that projected climate change could shrink the global economy by 20 percent and plunge the world into recession.

At a conference in New York earlier this month, Mr. Clinton noted that the world population was expected to rise from 6.5 billion to 9 billion in the next 43 years, a period in which further warming is projected, even if emissions were brought under control.

“Most of those people are going to be born in countries not able to support their current populations, which gives a certain quaint air to the illegal immigration debate in Congress.”

Those conditions will make 2007 “look like a Sunday afternoon picnic,” Mr. Clinton said.

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Comment by katyzzz

October 17th 2007 03:59
Ever thought about not at all.

katyzzz

Comment by DuskDevi

October 17th 2007 08:46
Hiya Louie (...louie...oh no... - do you get that sung to you all the time??)

Wherever there is an issue is a bandwagon that becomes a political vehicle.
A part of me resents how issues are used to raise profiles instead of the other way around but...as you say;
anything we do to help the environment is better than what we have done in the past;

Like you also say though re media attention...with a grain of salt, peppered with truth!

i am hoping that the Liberals bite the bullet and remove Climate Change as an election issue by coming out and saying they will sign Kyoto no matter what.
Why is that so hard to do?
Why, why is it sooooo hard to stick to a promise made??

It's like toll roads...I am still pissed at the closure of 4 lanes on a major road to 'encourage' everyone to use the Lane Cove Tunnel. Of course, this wasn't done 'til after the state elections. Grrrr.

...BUT...going back to your original question...no, I don't feel so.
I do think however that The Nobel Peace Prize has now been tinged with a touch of Hollywood.

Hope you're doing well Louie.

Dusk

Comment by Lilla

October 18th 2007 00:51
Hi Louie,

"...no-one can deny that anything we do to help the environment is better than what we have done in the past; so i welcome all this media attention, no matter how many grains of salt I decide to take it with in the coming months.

I have to agree. Of course there will always be the unscrupulous to prey on the unsuspecting, with niche market products, claims and propaganda - all designed for their own terrorism I s'pose, (like the rising price of water by local council's), no doubts about it.

But in my view, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is not a household name ~ but it deserves to be. Its important and altruistic work carried out during the past two decades ... by hundreds of individual professionals, fully merits this year's Nobel Peace Prize which it shares with Al Gore.

The current understanding of anticipated climate change and its effect on ecosystems and societies, uncertainties and all, is not anecdotal. Rather, it is articulated explicitly as a consensus view of a world-wide community of researchers. Too few politicians and members of the public appreciate this. And although not every individual scientist involved will fully agree with each sentence and each probability estimate in the IPCC's reports, few if any will seriously question that what the IPCC delivers is as good a chunk of scientific advice on climate change as anyone could hope to get.
~From Nature International Weekly Journal

I couldn't have said it better myself, so I didn't try.

Trust you are keeping green, my friend.
Lilla ...


Comment by Louie

October 18th 2007 02:08
Lilla, i think we are totally on the same page......

Thanks for the stuff on the IPCC Ill check it out, i had heard of them but havent put any time into reading their stuff...I will now

Thanks heaps as always

trying to be as green as i can...I think Kermit said it best, its not easy being green every bit helps

Comment by Louie

October 18th 2007 02:11
Yes Dusk,

Why is it sooo hard to keep a promise....the lane cove tunnel grrrrrrr that is a bloody sham as are all toll roads in my view, i think we pay taxes to pay for roads, why do we have to pay tolls........

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